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		<title>By: Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 15:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tips are gratuity, I tip when I recieve great service, be it at a restaurant, donut shop, or retail store. If employees are not allowed to recieve tips I call corporate and tell them what an outstanding employee they have. Sorry but tips are not require they are earned. If you don&#039;t earn it you don&#039;t get it.  Waiters see you more and do more for you so they have a greater chance to earn that 15-20% than the guy working at the coffee shop. I&#039;m not your employer I&#039;m a customer. It&#039;s your bossesjob to pay you not mine, so in absolutely no industry do you just get a tip regardless of service. That being said I have rarely ever gotten poor enough service not to tip</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tips are gratuity, I tip when I recieve great service, be it at a restaurant, donut shop, or retail store. If employees are not allowed to recieve tips I call corporate and tell them what an outstanding employee they have. Sorry but tips are not require they are earned. If you don&#8217;t earn it you don&#8217;t get it.  Waiters see you more and do more for you so they have a greater chance to earn that 15-20% than the guy working at the coffee shop. I&#8217;m not your employer I&#8217;m a customer. It&#8217;s your bossesjob to pay you not mine, so in absolutely no industry do you just get a tip regardless of service. That being said I have rarely ever gotten poor enough service not to tip</p>
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		<title>By: Damn Yankee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damn Yankee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 17:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few questions to further spawn an exchange of ideas.  Questions I am certain many of us have had.

** What determines a job as tip-worthy?  {Two sub questions implied, below)

Part 1.) What sort of employment makes it socially acceptable / expected that patrons tip?  

Part 2.) What level of staff service determines a tip, i.e. is a tip ever simply an automatic - an obligation as &#039;Waiter&#039; suggests?

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For the better part of my young &#039;30-something&#039; life I have been in the broad umbrella of the &#039;service industry.&#039;  Perhaps better stated, the &#039;hospitality industry.&#039;  

Working the range from small franchise hotels to large corporate run resort properties, to my currently employed position as an independent contractor who is more IT centered than guest service oriented - I often think about tipping as a larger social practice.

Do we tip out of appreciation?  Out of joy?  Out of obligation?  Out of guilt?  

I eagerly await the day when I too can pick up my very own copy of Steve&#039;s book (as many bloggers have,) but even then - what do &#039;the rest of us&#039; (yes, want to know what Steve&#039;s thoughts are as well - of course - I mean, he&#039;s been on Oprah after all - he, he) think about tipping and why tipping a restaurant server and a coffee barista are expected and acceptable - but not the friendly front desk staff at a hotel who decided not to charge you RACK, and &#039;throw you a bone.&#039;  The front desk staff are stressed by Joe and Jane Public - they are equally poorly paid (okay, perhaps not quite &#039;equally&#039; - not as paltry a sum as some wait staff) as some others in the service industry.


My wife has a point, why do I sometimes automatically tip?  Why do I sometimes extend a tip to an obviously poor service performance?  Also, she too wonders why I try and tip those atypical labor posts - such as front desk staff at hotels?  I ask myself, and now ask you.  Thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few questions to further spawn an exchange of ideas.  Questions I am certain many of us have had.</p>
<p>** What determines a job as tip-worthy?  {Two sub questions implied, below)</p>
<p>Part 1.) What sort of employment makes it socially acceptable / expected that patrons tip?  </p>
<p>Part 2.) What level of staff service determines a tip, i.e. is a tip ever simply an automatic &#8211; an obligation as &#8216;Waiter&#8217; suggests?</p>
<p>- &#8211; - &#8211; - &#8211; - &#8211; -</p>
<p>For the better part of my young &#8217;30-something&#8217; life I have been in the broad umbrella of the &#8216;service industry.&#8217;  Perhaps better stated, the &#8216;hospitality industry.&#8217;  </p>
<p>Working the range from small franchise hotels to large corporate run resort properties, to my currently employed position as an independent contractor who is more IT centered than guest service oriented &#8211; I often think about tipping as a larger social practice.</p>
<p>Do we tip out of appreciation?  Out of joy?  Out of obligation?  Out of guilt?  </p>
<p>I eagerly await the day when I too can pick up my very own copy of Steve&#8217;s book (as many bloggers have,) but even then &#8211; what do &#8216;the rest of us&#8217; (yes, want to know what Steve&#8217;s thoughts are as well &#8211; of course &#8211; I mean, he&#8217;s been on Oprah after all &#8211; he, he) think about tipping and why tipping a restaurant server and a coffee barista are expected and acceptable &#8211; but not the friendly front desk staff at a hotel who decided not to charge you RACK, and &#8216;throw you a bone.&#8217;  The front desk staff are stressed by Joe and Jane Public &#8211; they are equally poorly paid (okay, perhaps not quite &#8216;equally&#8217; &#8211; not as paltry a sum as some wait staff) as some others in the service industry.</p>
<p>My wife has a point, why do I sometimes automatically tip?  Why do I sometimes extend a tip to an obviously poor service performance?  Also, she too wonders why I try and tip those atypical labor posts &#8211; such as front desk staff at hotels?  I ask myself, and now ask you.  Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 02:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a server! Yes the economy and the tips have gona massively downhill! But there is another tip offender that is just as bad as the bad tippers.... the dumb people who sign one credit card receipt and take it, leaving the blank one behind!!!! At my work it has become very prevalent! Granted through the computer the bill has been paid, but whether they meant to or not, they have inevitably stiffed me! To those people: GET A BRAIN CHECK YOUR EYES AND PICK UP THE RIGHT RECEIPT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a server! Yes the economy and the tips have gona massively downhill! But there is another tip offender that is just as bad as the bad tippers&#8230;. the dumb people who sign one credit card receipt and take it, leaving the blank one behind!!!! At my work it has become very prevalent! Granted through the computer the bill has been paid, but whether they meant to or not, they have inevitably stiffed me! To those people: GET A BRAIN CHECK YOUR EYES AND PICK UP THE RIGHT RECEIPT!</p>
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		<title>By: Arkanabar T'verrick Ilarsadin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arkanabar T'verrick Ilarsadin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 16:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kelli@11;
95+% of the time, somebody earning minimum wage is living at home and/or otherwise receiving support.  Minimum wages are one of the major causes of unemployment.  There is no point to hiring somebody to do work that isn&#039;t worth as much as minimum wage + employer FICA &amp; Medicaid contributions + unemployment insurance + EEO compliance costs + OSHA compliance costs + liability insurance premiums + etc. ad nauseum.

As for CEO compensation, I agree that it&#039;s often excessive.  The problem is that boards of directors court these guys like they&#039;re sports stars, often with little or no consideration of their actual ability.

@Damian &amp; Charlotte (13-15),
I&#039;ve written about &lt;a href=&quot;http://arkanabar.blogspot.com/2008/05/on-serving-because-its-annoying-me.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the benefits of the current system&lt;/a&gt; before, and regularly refer back to that when commenting here. 

G@24 said &quot;The unemploed here get a living wage. That’s the way the US should be as well: everyone should have, a s a minimum, food, shelter, clothing, health care and daycare for their kids if they work as well as merit based college for their kids.&quot;

Sorry, no.  What you&#039;re suggesting is that I have the right to demand these things from you.  Why do I have the right to demand food from the farmers, shelter from the builders, clothing from the textile workers, health care from the doctors, and daycare from the providers, &lt;i&gt;even when I do not do ANYTHING in return?&lt;/i&gt;

What&#039;s more, when you pay people not to work, you get a lot more people who are willing to do it.

One of the things I liked about working for tips was that I was paid exactly what my patrons thought I deserved. 

Informed@52,
I also don&#039;t like the auto bailout.  I remember when Lee Iacocca first went to DC with his hand out, and thinking at the time, &quot;giving him money he hasn&#039;t earned is bad policy.  If Chrysler can&#039;t make it, it should fail.&quot;  But nooooo, the UAW wasn&#039;t going to tolerate that, so neither would their Democrat friends in Congress and the White House.  Lo and behold, we again have the Democrats in charge of both the legislature and the executive, so the UAW&#039;s meal ticket(s) will have their losses covered by the taxpayer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelli@11;<br />
95+% of the time, somebody earning minimum wage is living at home and/or otherwise receiving support.  Minimum wages are one of the major causes of unemployment.  There is no point to hiring somebody to do work that isn&#8217;t worth as much as minimum wage + employer FICA &amp; Medicaid contributions + unemployment insurance + EEO compliance costs + OSHA compliance costs + liability insurance premiums + etc. ad nauseum.</p>
<p>As for CEO compensation, I agree that it&#8217;s often excessive.  The problem is that boards of directors court these guys like they&#8217;re sports stars, often with little or no consideration of their actual ability.</p>
<p>@Damian &amp; Charlotte (13-15),<br />
I&#8217;ve written about <a href="http://arkanabar.blogspot.com/2008/05/on-serving-because-its-annoying-me.html" rel="nofollow">the benefits of the current system</a> before, and regularly refer back to that when commenting here. </p>
<p>G@24 said &#8220;The unemploed here get a living wage. That’s the way the US should be as well: everyone should have, a s a minimum, food, shelter, clothing, health care and daycare for their kids if they work as well as merit based college for their kids.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry, no.  What you&#8217;re suggesting is that I have the right to demand these things from you.  Why do I have the right to demand food from the farmers, shelter from the builders, clothing from the textile workers, health care from the doctors, and daycare from the providers, <i>even when I do not do ANYTHING in return?</i></p>
<p>What&#8217;s more, when you pay people not to work, you get a lot more people who are willing to do it.</p>
<p>One of the things I liked about working for tips was that I was paid exactly what my patrons thought I deserved. </p>
<p>Informed@52,<br />
I also don&#8217;t like the auto bailout.  I remember when Lee Iacocca first went to DC with his hand out, and thinking at the time, &#8220;giving him money he hasn&#8217;t earned is bad policy.  If Chrysler can&#8217;t make it, it should fail.&#8221;  But nooooo, the UAW wasn&#8217;t going to tolerate that, so neither would their Democrat friends in Congress and the White House.  Lo and behold, we again have the Democrats in charge of both the legislature and the executive, so the UAW&#8217;s meal ticket(s) will have their losses covered by the taxpayer.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 12:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, but I never tip at a coffee store. Don&#039;t get me wrong, I do completely agree with tipping in a restaurant. Unless the service was completely awful, it is just cheep not to leave at least %15. But a coffee store, especially somewhere like Dunkin&#039; Donuts, is not the same thing. 
The people behind that counter are not providing you with the same level of service as a waiter. I have worked in numerous coffee stores. And let me tell you, if you don&#039;t feel like leaving me anything extra on top of the $3.00 you paid for your drink, I harbour no resentment. Trust me, it really isn&#039;t that hard at pour a cup of coffee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but I never tip at a coffee store. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I do completely agree with tipping in a restaurant. Unless the service was completely awful, it is just cheep not to leave at least %15. But a coffee store, especially somewhere like Dunkin&#8217; Donuts, is not the same thing.<br />
The people behind that counter are not providing you with the same level of service as a waiter. I have worked in numerous coffee stores. And let me tell you, if you don&#8217;t feel like leaving me anything extra on top of the $3.00 you paid for your drink, I harbour no resentment. Trust me, it really isn&#8217;t that hard at pour a cup of coffee.</p>
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